My wife and I recently relocated to Palm Desert. We’ve been living in California for a few years, but I’ve been missing the desert since we left Scottsdale/Phoenix. Before we made the jump, I spent a lot of time researching the area including bars, restaurants, breweries… Golf courses! During my search, I came across the Confident Speakers Toastmasters Club. Having never been a member, I reached out to learn more. With my passion for dance music, as it normally does, I was connected with a local musician. I heard a few of her songs and reached out for an interview.
Her name is Lia Shapiro, her band name is ALiEn TriBe and she has been producing music for years. She has released 10 albums, dozens of singles, and her sound has changed over the years. I have enjoyed getting to know her and this interview, while longer than most, will teach you things about her, about living in Palm Desert… You may even learn a few things about aliens! This was an unforgettable conversation and an honor getting to know her. It is my pleasure to introduce you to ALiEn TriBe. (And yes, that is how it is spelled. Keep reading to learn why!)
Electronic Music from the Heart and Soul
You’re an electronic music artist and you live in the Coachella Valley in Southern California, and that’s just where my wife and I are moving to. It just so happens I am obsessed with EDM! Glad we connected. Let’s start with your name… How did you come up with ALiEn TriBe and why are some letters capitalized like that?
ALiEn TriBe appeared in my head one day after months of trying to think of a band name. Sometimes that happens. It’s like a name just suddenly inserts itself out of nowhere into my brain. I love aliens and I believe in them, and the tribe part of the name is for all the musical parts in me… The tribe is inside!
When I sing, I end up with a million vocal tracks that I ultimately have to chop up, place, and reorganize. I create all the parts of my music and each instrument goes on its own track, including more than a few drum tracks. After singing and making multiple tracks of vocals, I chop them all up and arrange everything to make the mix. Once the mixing is done on the whole song, I finalize it and master it.
I’m one person but it really feels like I’m a tribe inside. Seriously, I pull something in from beyond where maybe I exist in a tribe but it’s not the normal earth kind of tribe. I’m part of a huge cosmic space tribe, so I just try to hear all the parts and put them together to make some kind of music on this planet.
As for the capitalization on the letters, it just feels right, like it exudes some kind of mystical power and draws attention to the nature of this tribe. Look at the word tribe. There’s no power at all. Now, look at it. TriBe. Doesn’t that feel stronger, more powerful? Alien is mundane. Everybody knows alien. Look at it now. ALiEn. This is a stronger alien, more noticeable! Now look. ALiEn TriBe. Much more noticeable and there’s power. That’s the way I originally saw it in my mind’s eye.
Do you have any live performances planned for this year or next? I hear your music is also popular in the UK. Would you like to perform there?
My music equipment is massive but if I could figure out how to take this show on the road and get some help hauling and setting it up, I’d love to perform live. Electronic music is a little difficult for live performance though but it can be done. As well, it’s only me, one little person doing it all. To recreate it on stage would be a magical feat.
The year before COVID, people were trying to get me to perform at the Tomorrowland in Belgium. They were saying, “you could fill up a whole stadium, please come and do it!” I don’t know about that but it was very encouraging to hear. I’d love to perform in England where so much is going on in the way of festivals.
All my favorite DJs perform at Creamfields. I’m actually a DJ in my heart, I mean, I’d love to play my own music and remix it into new sounds like some of the DJs do. Glastonbury Festival in England is a good one too. I also recently learned about the Isle of Wight Festival off the South Coast of England. It’s one of the longest running festivals there, since 1968. I’ve actually been looking at DJ equipment, then it’d be much easier. I could DJ my own music and take this show on the road!
You’ve released several albums over the years. How has your sound changed and when can we expect your next release?
I’ve released 10 albums of my own as ALiEn TriBe and seven collaborations. My latest release was last year, 2021, called Spaceman. Currently, I’m deciding on whether to release my music next time or several collaborations. I’ve almost made the decision to release a few collaborations since they’re all mixed, mastered and ready to go. We’ll release them as singles. I’ve got one with an Irish musician and a couple with two British musicians.
Recently, I also just collaborated with another leading electronic British musician, Mark Jenkins, on his collaborative album. He gathered female, electronic musicians from around the world and produced an album using all our elements and combined his own. He only puts out 100 collectible, designed, numbered, and limited CDs with each project, no streaming. I was very honored to be part of his project and hope to do another one.
As far as my sound goes, I believe maybe I’m faster and a little smoother. In the beginning, I did more vocals, then I had some years where I focused more on instrumentals but I’m getting back to more vocally inspired songs. On my last album, Spaceman, there are seven songs, five of which I sing on. I also want to branch out a little beyond what people think of as electronic music. It’s true; my instrument of choice is electronic and that means I play a keyboard but I have various programs as well. Within it all, I have all the instruments, which exist at my fingertips. That means I can play any instrument, whether it’s electric guitars, even acoustic, stringed instruments, various horns, any sort of percussion, and everything else as well.
Again, because of the variety and scope of how I make music, this means the final songs can be any genre at all. Actually, I’ve heard that hip hop is electronic. Yep! Made in the studio and then it’s broken out into parts that can be performed on stage by various musicians and singers. I’d like to do some rock, even blues, although my Deep Down EP has a lot of bluesy, even jazzy elements. I’ll call it electronic rock or electronic blues.
You’re also a singer/songwriter. What is your songwriting process like? Do you sit down with a yellow pad or do lyrics just come to you?
Actually, I do sit down with a yellow pad and have a stack of them at my workstation. I have a whole notebook of song lyrics but the creation of actual music versus writing out lyrics are probably two different processes for me. My written lyrics, I think, are more like ballads or poetry and they don’t always fit what I play on the keyboard. I usually complete the music first and if I feel lyrics coming on, I’ll start singing them as inspired in the moment by the music. They may not be anything like the lyrics that I’ve written.
I’ve had to make a special effort if I want to sing the lyrics that I’ve written, yet, the music that I’ve made doesn’t always fit with my more elaborate lyrics. I’m probably more inclined to do all the song work at the keyboard. I first create drum tracks, then instrumental tracks. I chop all the tracks up and re-organize them. Sometimes I feel the music needs vocals and other times, it feels more like something instrumental. If I feel lyrical, then I’ll just start singing something. It’s like the words come to me based on the energy of the music I’ve made.
Once I sing a number of lyric tracks, then I go to work chopping them all up and once again, reorganizing everything until it’s all in place and sounds right. It’s really about sound in the end. It has to sound good, the music and the voice. I also like to use synth vocals. I tweak and reprogram them until I get the sound that I want. Often I can get them to sound more like my voice and then I’ll sing along with them. Sometimes I manage to even create actual words and they sound like aliens!
Who do you listen to? I am curious who inspires your sound!
I’m not sure that anyone, in particular, inspires my sound. I’ve lived and worked around the world for over a lifetime and have absorbed many different types of music by now. It’s like it all gets mixed inside me. When I sit down to create a song, all the influences combine and hopefully, something new and fresh comes flowing out.
I love a lot of different kinds of music, anything from blues to rock, even hip hop to purely electronic. A few times in my life, I’ve lived and worked in countries like Iran, Kenya, and Japan. Some of those times were before the Internet and life was a bit isolating. I didn’t see or hear anything in the western world. For example, in Iran for two years, I only heard Middle Eastern music including the music being transmitted from across the Persian Gulf in the Arabian countries.
In Africa, I only heard African music for three years. In Japan, I heard Japanese music but also all of the latest European electronic music that wasn’t being played in America. I lived in the Roppongi area of Tokyo for a couple of years. It was the biggest nightlife district in Japan. At the time, in the mid to late 90s, there were more nightclubs stacked up per square inch than anywhere in the world. Everything is vertical in Tokyo due to limited land space and its hilly. I heard it all walking around in Roppongi, music floating out of everywhere.
As a child, my dad was in the United States Army and we lived in Germany twice. I got an early introduction to European music but also American rock and roll. I’d sit on the floor with my ear glued to our German Telefunken stereo. The United States Armed Forces played the best music coming out of America, lots of rock and pop. Wow, I loved it!
I love to dance in my workout routine and that’s when I listen to a lot of DJ music. It’s perfect! I have smart speakers that I control through my iPhone; just pick something and my stereo smart speakers keep on playing more. Okay, now that I’ve said all that, probably my most favorite music is Enigma but I don’t try to copy them. I’m not sure I could actually copy anyone, not with all the world’s music stored inside of me like it is.
It was ambient music that got me started… Non-vocal ambient music, to be specific. You don’t use a lot of lyrics, but every song I am hearing tells a story. Is there a reason you don’t use a lot of vocals?
I actually do sing on quite a lot of my songs. As well, I use synth vocals but not just straight out of my keyboard. Sometimes I like to make them close to how I sound. Or I’ll tweak and reprogram them to sound like however I want them to sound, sometimes even like aliens! Other times, I’ll mix my vocals in with the synth vocals that I’ve reprogrammed and that can be a very interesting sound!
I’ve made a number of songs where I sort of use my voice as an instrument. You’re right, sometimes there may not be a lot of lyrics and I may even do a lot of repetition of lyrics. Since I do everything in my music, just making the music is a big job. When I go to write lyrics and sing, what I might write doesn’t necessarily go with the music I created. It’s like I have too many words that I feel would take the focus off the music I created. It would then become more like a ballad and the music would have to fit. I’m not a ballad maker.
I hear you’ve done lots of radio interviews. What do you especially like about radio?
I love radio! It’s a very special format and unlike TV or video, there can be no silences since your audience can’t see you or the expressions on your face. Same thing with podcasts of course. You have to learn the art of how to keep talking without sounding like you’re just filling in words and jabbering aimlessly.
My favorite all-time place to be on the radio was with Terry James Hawke in England. I’ve done a lot there, transatlantic, on the telephone from Southern California to England. His co-host on the show was also his wife, Dorothy. We’ve had lots of great shows and part of that is because we’ve been friends in real life for about 15 years.
They regularly visited Southern California and Arizona during their media tours every year until COVID-19. Terry is often compared to the great British radio producer and host, John Peel. Whenever I’d release a new album, he would debut it and have me on the show. As a result, I got pretty well-known in the UK and have made lots of friends there. It’s also nice to have met lots of other musicians there and across Europe, mainly electronic musicians that I’ve had an opportunity to collaborate with.
What’s the best concert you’ve ever been to?
I haven’t been a big concertgoer in recent years but maybe more of a clubgoer. A fun one was in Las Vegas vibing all night to Paul Oakenfold, a popular DJ from England. He set the stage for DJs in Vegas.
The loudest most impressive concert I’ve ever been to in my entire life was Grand Funk Railroad at the Cow Palace right outside of San Francisco. It sounded like a freight train plowing through the stadium, all lights ablaze and flashing!
I live only two miles from where the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival takes place and have my own personal music concert in my studio during that time. I just throw open the windows or go driving around the grounds and I’ve heard everybody or seen them, including the Rolling Stones, Beyoncé, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Billie Eilish. Just about everybody, really!
I was so inspired one year that I made an EP of four songs called, Going To Coachella. I contacted the co-founder of the Coachella Music Festival, Paul Tollett, and we texted back and forth for a while. He liked my song! Maybe one of these days I’ll perform there.
Oh, and how could I forget! I saw Madonna in Las Vegas! She’d been my icon since the 80s and it was pretty unreal to see her. What an experience!
I am listening to your music right now on Spotify. Where else can I find your tunes?
My website is a good place to find out more about my music if you want to listen to free, shortened samples. I’m at alientribe.com. There are short samples of every one of my songs and collaborations, pictures, and more. You can also Google Lia Shapiro, ALiEn TriBe, and see what comes up. I’m also at digital sites wherever you stream, download, or buy your music.
I’m there worldwide at Amazon, Spotify, Apple Music, and all the others and whatever streaming sites there are in the rest of the world. I’m also at Bandcamp. On YouTube, if you put in ALiEn TriBe, Sugo Music, you’ll find my music there and on many compilations. By putting in my distributor, Sugo Music Group, everything will come up, including all the compilations I’m on.
My wife and I love to travel. It is actually on my bucket list to visit every country in the world. Tell me about your experiences living abroad and how they have influenced your music.
I could write a book about that! I grew up in the United States Army and my dad was stationed in Germany twice. With my former husband, we lived and worked in Iran, Kenya and Japan and traveled in between. I’m also from Washington D.C. and have gone in and out through New York City to faraway places all my life.
I’ve always loved music so everywhere I’ve lived and traveled to, I’ve absorbed it. Living in the Middle East and Africa, I didn’t hear American or western music at all. Those were the days before the Internet but I’d be tuned into the music, my ears and eyes glued to wherever the source was. Imagine taking in so many different types of music and sounds you’ve never, ever heard before. It’s all gone inside of me, mixes together, then merges and mingles, and comes out in various ways when I make music.
I love drums and always felt like maybe I lived in a tribe somewhere in another life, another time, even another planet. I loved it when I found myself living in Nairobi, Kenya for three years. There were ever constant drums throbbing throughout the city as groups of drummers would all be bopping down the sidewalks beating out tribal rhythms.
I’m usually heavy on the drums in much of my music. Early on I was exposed to Middle Eastern music when living and working in a town on the Persian Gulf in Iran. I’d never heard this kind of music before, it felt like I was on another planet! I’d turn on the TV and get dancers across the Persian Gulf somewhere in the Arabic countries going in circles and swinging their long hair round and round to the sound of tribal drumming and instruments. It was absolute magic!
Living right in the heart of nightlife in Tokyo where more clubs were stacked up per square inch than anywhere in the world, I was exposed to all the latest and greatest European dance music that wasn’t being played in America. Not only that, but I’d turn on the TV or radio and this lovely, lilting, traditional Japanese music was floating forth. Quite a combination all in one place!
When I was little in Germany, I’d sit on the floor with my head against our Telefunken stereo and tune into all the really different German and European music… Music that I’d never heard in my short, little life yet.
I always enjoyed actually buying music while traveling and living in various countries. It was like a great souvenir but something I could bring back to the U.S. with me and have and listen to forever. It’s been over a lifetime and I still have an assortment of tapes, records, and CDs from around the world, places like Egypt, Istanbul, Iran or Greece.
I don’t think a person can take in so many kinds of sounds and if you make music, stick with only one sound, like say, an American sound. It’s naturally going to be electronic eclectic!
Anyway, I can imagine how you and your wife will like tuning into all the music in different places once you’re traveling. The only thing now is that maybe you won’t be able to buy it in the country you’re visiting. Oh well, you can make a playlist on Spotify!
You have collaborated with musicians from around the world. What does that process look like? I am curious how you know who you want to collaborate with and what the production looks like if you are collaborating with someone on the other side of the planet!
Music collaboration is probably the same process that happens in any relationship, whether it’s business, marriage, or any other sort of partnership. When it presents itself, you just know it and you go for it.
My collaborations with others go by different band names. “LiaPelle” is with Swedish musician, composer, Pelle Händén. “Wailing Gate” is with Irish musician, composer, Geoff Keogh. “Underground Aliens” is with my brother, Robert Langnas. I also did a song with Payman Shabani from Iran called “FREEDOM”. It was released as a single.
I’m putting out more singles this year as that’s the new way considering everything has gone to streaming. Recently I did a new collaboration with leading UK electronic musician, Mark Jenkins on his collaborative all-female album. Also, there will be a new release soon with another Brit, Dean Burnett.
All my collaborations have been done electronically through the Internet except for “LiaPelle”. As well, I didn’t make the music on that one. I’m the singer and lyrics writer. Pelle actually traveled to the US over several years and we created the songs in my Coachella Valley studio.
Collaborating electronically means sending files back and forth. That’s an elaborate process and requires a lot of technical information so I won’t get into all the little details. Once you figure out how to do it though, it can be quite fun and absorbing. Say, one of my collaborators sends me bits and pieces of tracks. I place them in and start making my own music and vocals so they all fit together.
Once I create my parts and fit in their parts, I put them all together and we have a basic song. Then I’ll send it back to the person I’m collaborating with. They’ll do more on their end, then they’ll send it back, and so it goes… Back and forth until we’re satisfied with the final song.
I’ve never lived in Palm Desert before. I know it gets hot, but what else can you tell me about living in the desert?
Yes, the entire Coachella Valley gets hot, that’s an understatement! It gets intensely hot for up to six months a year. I’d recommend having a home in a cooler place for the summer if that’s possible. If you don’t know, our summers go longer than average. April goes up into the 90s and we’re still in the 80s to 90s in October. With climate change, I fear it’s going to become even hotter, although we’ve had some unusually cool days in August this year. That means 100-105. We’ve also had more humidity than I’ve ever felt in 23 years. We’re usually around 7% humidity which is absolutely divine! It’s so nice, like a nice, hot and very dry sauna.
It’s all worth it though, starting in November, the weather becomes like a true paradise, and all the palm trees and more get wrapped in lights. I’ve been here 23 years and I never grow tired of it. Every time I get in the car to go anywhere, it’s like a postcard in every direction I look. People call it the desert but there’s green grass, flowers galore, and palm trees everywhere. Every now and then you’ll see a patch of white desert, there are even a few real dunes out there. And, Joshua Tree National Park is only 20-30 miles away. It’s like driving into another planet!
The entire valley is gorgeous all surrounded by a ring of mountains and lots to do up there as well. We have the best restaurants and the best food from one end of the valley to the other end. And of course music and one of the world’s most famous top ten music festivals, Coachella.
Things are a little quiet in the summertime through October and half the population leaves. We have a lot of snowbirds from Canada and the northern states. They all come pouring back in around November along with half the world and that’s when things really start hopping! During the season, it’s best to make reservations at restaurants.
We’re also very artsy with lots of art galleries. And music! Especially during the season, there’s music everywhere! Although I’m not quite sure about the changes during COVID but they were doing music, even on the buses. A live band in the back of the bus!
Speaking of concerts, have you been to Coachella? What about Stagecoach? Curious if these are worth checking out once we relocate to the desert.
I’ve never been to Coachella although I only live two miles away. One reason is that it’s just too hot and I’m not good about being out there when it’s 90 degrees. I’m not sure why they don’t have it during the cooler part of the year when it’s at least in the high 60s and 70s. I hear it’s also a bit grueling to get into and involves a long dusty walk in the beating down sun to get into the grounds. Unless that’s a rumor or things have changed, I’m not sure why they wouldn’t have buses or something to take people in.
It’s definitely worth it though if you’re okay with heat, sand storms, and long walks in the blazing hot sun and standing around in it all day. April is also the month when the wind blows and that whips up sand storms which usually happens during Coachella. I’ve heard of people huddling inside the vodka tent or wherever they can get out of it. I’ve also heard there isn’t much shade and people try to find shade.
If they are going to have it in April, they need to bus people into the grounds, provide plenty of shady spots and air-conditioned tents. I’m sure there are a lot of people that wouldn’t mind all this, maybe you have to be really young… I remember those days, none of that mattered but it matters now. I’m a little older and I live here and can only handle so much sun and heat in a year.
I have to say though, I’d probably find a way if I ever found myself performing live at Coachella. Just give me an air-conditioned tent and plenty of water and I could do it. That would be different than trekking around all day in the open spaces, no trees and under a very hot sun.
Another thing, it seems Coachella is becoming somewhat Hollywood-inspired. It’s the place to be seen and in the right clothes. It’s just a hop, skip and jump away from L.A. so during Coachella time, you’ll see and hear private jets and helicopters flying over from L.A. Everyone is renting out their homes, rooms, and I’m sure you could even rent your couch for a few hundred dollars.
Seriously, it’s an exciting time all over the valley, especially near the festival, you can hear the music and feel the energy in the air. The whole place is cracking with vibes, and hippies are everywhere or people dressed in whatever the latest festival fashion is.
The Stagecoach Festival is country music and they bring in the top country singers. These fans are an older crowd and many of them come wheeling in with their big RVs. They’ve had to relocate them further away from the communities because somehow they’re a rowdier crowd and make too much noise. Seems they like to party among themselves as well, which makes sense since they set up camp in their RVs year after year and get to know each other.
Tell me about your relationship with ExoBlue Records.
ExoBlue Records is my own label for releasing my music. There is sort of a hidden meaning to the word because I like for all things to have meaning instead of just a random word or title without meaning. “Exo” is the Latin word for external or outer or outside. Blue, of course, is the sky, and that’s where aliens come from!
What sort of headphones are you using? I am obsessed with Bose, but I’m also not a DJ!
I’m not a DJ either! Anything Bose is awesome but DJs are a force of their own and require a whole different experience when it comes to headphones. Headphones have to be durable with pivoting cups so as to remove one side. As well, they have to be lightweight yet high quality when mixing frequencies. They also have to be loud and deliver a bassy punch.
Personally, I hardly use headphones except when laying down vocal tracks with the music. I’d get feedback from the mic if I didn’t use headphones during those times.
Studio headphones serve a different purpose when you’re actually making music in the studio. They need to have a flatter sound so you’re not enhancing anything as you work with pure, original sounds and building layer by layer. Sony professional headphones work well for me. I also keep a pair of Sennheiser headphones nearby just in case I need to listen a little differently.
Where can people learn more about ALiEn TriBe?
My website is a good place to find out more. There are short music samples of all my songs and collaborations and pictures and information. My music is also at digital sites wherever you stream, download, or buy your music. ALiEn TriBe music is worldwide at Amazon, Spotify, iTunes, and all the other streaming sites. As well, you can tell your smart speaker to play ALiEn TriBe. A funny thing though, Amazon Alexa has her own accent and wants to pronounce it, A-Lee-awn Tri-Bee.
I’m also at Bandcamp. My latest album, Spaceman was released in 2021 but will be released at Bandcamp by the end of 2022. If you search YouTube for ALiEn TriBe, Sugo Music, it’ll come up along with all the compilations I’m on. Sugo Music is my distributor and it sometimes works well to include the distributor, record label, or publisher along with the band name, at least on YouTube.
What’s next for ALiEn TriBe?
What’s next, I’m not sure, all I can do is keep making the music and hope for the best. Seriously though, I’m looking at DJ gear and thinking about DJing my music. That would mean getting out of the studio and taking this show on the road. I don’t know though, I do enjoy the creative process of making electronic music track by track and putting it all together in the solitude of my studio.
I’ve been taking a bit of a break from studio work since I worked a long time on back-to-back albums. My last three full-length albums were Pleiadian Arrival to Earth, Alien Rapture, and Spaceman. My focus is often sort of spacey and even before these three full-length albums, there was an EP called Meet Me In Spaceland. My very first album was called, We Are Here. It’s been my longest-playing album so far, with 13 songs.
My distributor tells me that singles are popular now due to streaming so maybe I’ll get busy doing some singles. As well, landing back on Earth for a while and doing something earthier might be nice. I do have some of that, like my American Chick EP, which is EDM, or my Deep Down album, a combo of bluesy, Americana, and jazzy, where I sing on all my songs.
I’ve created quite an assortment of genres but overall it’s all electronic and a lot of EDM-type stuff. I love to dance so I’ll keep my beats around 120 to 127 BPM. I actually stand up at my keyboard and test out the danceability of every song I do. Some of my songs are better for listening but a lot are danceable, or both.
I’ve also been approached by a lot of people around the world that want to collaborate with me. I’m only one person though and can only do so much although I wish I could do it all and more. I already have several collaborations sitting in my computer and need to get those out. I also have a lot of songs I’ve made that I need to finish up and get released.
I love to make little videos too where I’m just playing randomly in the moment. I’ve been doing a lot of that since I finished my album last year. So really, I have a lot to do and finish and have hardly had time to think beyond that. I have thought about the future though and where it all might go. Sometimes we just don’t know but plodding along, we eventually cover a lot of ground and if we’re lucky, we leave our mark for good in this world and hope it all turns out and that we’ve actually accomplished something.
Thank you for doing this. I can’t wait to meet you soon! In all of the interviews I do, I always give the artist the last word. Go.
Thank YOU, Ricky, for the interview, it’s been a pleasure! I look forward to meeting you and your wife too, once you get settled. I think you’ll love it here but maybe hang on to a place in Northern California just in case you need to escape the summer heat. Seriously, it can be pretty intense, a pool in the backyard helps!
As for me, my final goal may be to be accepted into the GRAMMY world. Seems everyone I know is a GRAMMY member and I just need to get on with it and see if I can make it happen. It’s not really to win anything but they’re all so nice, my peer group. I’d love to meet up with these sweet people just for the fun and the connection.
Music is such a happy thing, so the more the better and that’s my ultimate and highest goal, to keep making music and to be completely happy in this world, and to make others happy. That should be everyone’s goal, no more hate, dividing ourselves up, or fighting. After all, we all live on one chunk of land, this planet.
As for my music, ALiEn TriBe, it’s streaming and downloadable and for purchase on all worldwide digital services. Besides making music, I’m always doing my best to help make a better world. I post a lot on Facebook, not only my music and my videos but my thoughts about peace and love and getting along. Here’s a quick little formula, it could fix everything if we only applied it. 1 heart + 1 soul + 1 people + 1 planet = 1 LOVE.
Thank you again, Ricky. And thank you to everyone out there that’s reading this and for supporting and liking my music. I appreciate you!
